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« on: December 07, 2011, 09:52:22 PM »

 Saw this park the other night and managed a quick shot tonight. I plan to go back and spend a bit more time with night shots.
 Nikon D300s, Nikon 14-24 2.8,  30 sec exposure @ f18.

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« Reply #1 on: December 08, 2011, 09:37:26 AM »

Interesting place...kind of unique to see some many trees spread out and with lights.

So why f/18?  DOF?  When using UWA lenses generally f/8 to f/11 is plenty.  For instance, I shoot a 14/2.8 (Samyang) and the MTF testing on this lens actually puts f/5.6 at it's sharpest aperture, but I still shoot it at f/8 most of the time for landscape.  At f/5.6 and 14mm the hyperfocal point on my distance scale is 1m (even though it has a 5m mark and then infinity mark, it focuses way past infinity, just a manufacturing QA thing).  This means at 1m and f/5.6 everything 1m away and beyond is in focus.  Any way, I finally went to your flickr stream Smiley and added you as a contact.  I looked at the "original" size and it just seems really soft across all of the frame.  I'm just providing C&C hope you don't mind.  The exposure is just about there if not just fine, but it's the sharpness/crispness of the shot that IMHO is lacking.

I think this is due to two factors, which are long exposure and possibly diffraction due to the heavy f-stop.  The long exposure most likely the heaviest of the two.  Even on a perceived still night, leaves move more than you think.

Go back and try a 5 second exposure at f/4 or better yet, first test your lens focusing ability and understand it's hyperfocal points...I'm sure that someone has tested this FABULOUS lens.  Go back and shot at f/2.8, f/5.6 and then f/8 (adjust such frame so that you get proper exposure, maybe about 1EV more than you show here with keeping the shutter speed no slower than say 5 seconds and ISO less than 1600.  Then compare each frame and see what you like best.

I bet that lens' sweet spot is around f/6.3, in fact, I'll see if I can pull up the blur index from slrgear.com and post it back here.
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« Reply #2 on: December 08, 2011, 09:41:04 AM »

I was wrong and not suprised...this lens' sharpest stop is 5.6 not 6.3.

Here's the site that has the review of the lens:  http://www.slrgear.com/reviews/showproduct.php/product/1122/cat/13

and here's the blur index:

http://www.slrgear.com/reviews/zproducts/nikon14-24f28/tloader.htm

set at default angle of 14mm and then move the f-stop up and the stop that has the most pink (lower on the pink/purple scale i.e. more pink is sharper) is f/5.6.  This is a great way to compare lenses.  Just find two lenses (they have to be blur tested as not all have been tested) and then pull up each blur index dialogue side-by-side and compare.
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« Reply #3 on: December 08, 2011, 02:21:53 PM »

Thanks for the information, I had not seen that yet and it saves me a little time to find the sweet spot. I knew 30 sec was going to be a long exposure, this was really the first chance I've had to get out and play with that lens and that got cut shorter than I wanted it to.  I'd have gone to f22 and bulb if I had had time. I was curious as to how much distortion would be evident, but it was damn cold last night and my sons class ended way early. I plan on going back since this is just a 5 min drive from my house and put this lens through it's paces. Spring storm season is just around the corner for me and I'll be back on the road and I want to know this lens inside and out before I see a once in a lifetime shots somewhere out there and miss it due to not being familiar with this lens.
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